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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: Timewilltell on April 30, 2012, 06:19 am
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So, Tony has disappeared with a fuckload of cash and not come on the forums once to explain to his customer base of THOUSANDS where he is (despite SR being his day job, you'd think it'd be on his list of priorities wouldn't you?) As you know, tony's products were mdma, cocaine, heroin and heroin pebbles, LSD and ketamine.
Anyway, look at the following (I COULD OF COURSE BE WRONG AND THESE GUYS MAY BE LEGIT)
AfternoonDelight - http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/a8a6be4f8e
Member for 14 days. Selling TONYS ACID. Out of Canada.
Tomorrowman - http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/13a78646d6
Member for 10 days. Just started selling MDMA and Cocaine out of Canada.
OPI - http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/c662375e77
Has been a member for one month, sells from Canada, and is selling uncut heroin pebbles (one of Tonys most famous products and very rare, NOONE ELSE ON SILK ROAD SELLS THESE).
If you were going to pull off a massive scam but wanted to come back and carry on vending, you wouldn't start a new vendor account selling all the same products would you? In the time leading up to the scam, you would start separate vendor accounts selling different products.
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jesus christ i ran out of tin foil
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bad stuff is bad..
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Tony76: My MDMA very well could be top quality. The H i am almost positive is the best only based on the fact that ive been doing this for 20 years and have never encountered H this strong before. Afghan origin.
As far as pricing goes, i haven't settled on a price point yet... but i know it will be more than 200/g
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i agree with op that tony has multiple vending accounts
i mean for fuck sakes look at the fucking opioid listings. its cut IN HALF
as for these low posters coming in just to say bs tinfoil meth head.
i will assume u are tony or someone working with/for tony managing everyone's sneaking suspicions
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tony owns these roads made of silk and he's gone with the wind. cheers
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tony owns these roads made of silk and he's gone with the wind. cheers
tigger = tony
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jesus christ i ran out of tin foil
Listen you fucking idiot, I said in my post that I may be wrong.
I WOULD ACTUALLY BE PLEASED IF YOU ARE RIGHT.
Tony has about $450 of my money right now. Believe me, I want you to be right.
BUT LOOK AT THE FUCKING FACTS.
Tony opens for international orders. He asks ALL BUYERS to FE. He then disappears, doesn't come on the forums to say he'll be an extra couple days - he just fully fucks off.
In the month leading up to this, THREE VENDORS APPEAR ALL OUT OF CANADA, one selling TONYS ACTUAL ACID.. one selling THE HEROIN PEBBLES THAT ONLY TONY SOLD, and the other selling mdma and coke (less suspicious but still)..
That's three new vendors, all in the past month, all out of Canada, selling mdma, coke, LSD, and heroin pebbles.
And Tony, a vendor from Canada, disappears, having sold mdma, coke, LSD, and heroin pebbles.
This could be a coincidence but tin foil? Come the FUCK on. This deserves our, and the SR admins attention
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jesus christ i ran out of tin foil
Listen you fucking idiot, I said in my post that I may be wrong.
I WOULD ACTUALLY BE PLEASED IF YOU ARE RIGHT.
Tony has about $450 of my money right now. Believe me, I want you to be right.
BUT LOOK AT THE FUCKING FACTS.
Tony opens for international orders. He asks ALL BUYERS to FE. He then disappears, doesn't come on the forums to say he'll be an extra couple days - he just fully fucks off.
In the month leading up to this, THREE VENDORS APPEAR ALL OUT OF CANADA, one selling TONYS ACTUAL ACID.. one selling THE HEROIN PEBBLES THAT ONLY TONY SOLD, and the other selling mdma and coke (less suspicious but still)..
That's three new vendors, all in the past month, all out of Canada, selling mdma, coke, LSD, and heroin pebbles.
And Tony, a vendor from Canada, disappears, having sold mdma, coke, LSD, and heroin pebbles.
This could be a coincidence but tin foil? Come the FUCK on. This deserves our, and the SR admins attention
You make a great point. sorry for your loss my friend.
SR might as well be apart of the scam imo.... they stand to make money here also
this is all social engineering at its finest.
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wow.... me and tony talked through pm and he told me he thought opi was buying his pebbles and re selling them and thought he was going to pull off a big 420 scam.... sounds weird
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It does seem a little odd, but its all speculation, none of us know Tony personally, so who knows whats going on. It's been less than 2 weeks, should give it a bit more time before jumping to conclusions.
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jesus christ i ran out of tin foil
Listen you fucking idiot, I said in my post that I may be wrong.
I WOULD ACTUALLY BE PLEASED IF YOU ARE RIGHT.
Tony has about $450 of my money right now. Believe me, I want you to be right.
BUT LOOK AT THE FUCKING FACTS.
Tony opens for international orders. He asks ALL BUYERS to FE. He then disappears, doesn't come on the forums to say he'll be an extra couple days - he just fully fucks off.
In the month leading up to this, THREE VENDORS APPEAR ALL OUT OF CANADA, one selling TONYS ACTUAL ACID.. one selling THE HEROIN PEBBLES THAT ONLY TONY SOLD, and the other selling mdma and coke (less suspicious but still)..
That's three new vendors, all in the past month, all out of Canada, selling mdma, coke, LSD, and heroin pebbles.
And Tony, a vendor from Canada, disappears, having sold mdma, coke, LSD, and heroin pebbles.
This could be a coincidence but tin foil? Come the FUCK on. This deserves our, and the SR admins attention
You make a great point. sorry for your loss my friend.
SR might as well be apart of the scam imo.... they stand to make money here also
this is all social engineering at its finest.
They could be, but at the moment there is no evidence for that.
SR has been around a while, and they make enough off the commission, I don't think they would risk losing a mass of customers to make a few hundred thousand (especially when you consider that they make much more than that just based off sales.)
I think that SRs goal is to just get more and more customers and therefore more commission. Not a good money making scam to collude with vendors to scam your customers.
Then again, who knows?
But I do know, that there is at least evidence that these vendors are Tony.
I mean look at OPI.
Can you find me ANYONE, anyone at all, selling heroin pebbles? And this guy is from the same fucking country!
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The last person anyone should be blaming is DPR or SR in general. I mean it says right there as a warning, "FE early at your own risk." The whole point of the Silk Road is that this a true free market. If you get scammed in the process, you kind of have to blame yourself. I mean I lost $250 if this is a scam, but I'm not going to blame DPR for that. He has no obligation whatsoever to step in and help the people that willingly chose to not use the scam protection that he gave us. Welcome to the true free market. If you don't like it, leave the site. We've all certainly learned a valuable lesson from this event. Even if Tony shows up tomorrow and it turns out we all were just impatient, let's all take the pledge to be smarter in the future about FE. I'll be honest, there is still one vendor that I use regularly that I will always FE for. But other than that, this is my last time. And I ever get scammed by that vendor (if you're wondering, it's Ivory, who I completely trust to not do something like that), then I'll blame myself then too. People always look for someone to blame when they get screwed. Well two people are to blame here: Tony and yourself.
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wow.... me and tony talked through pm and he told me he thought opi was buying his pebbles and re selling them and thought he was going to pull off a big 420 scam.... sounds weird
Sounds like he's trying to cover his tracks if you ask me.
He would know 100% if someone was reselling his pebbles. Think about it. OPI is selling quite a lot. If they were buying from Tony it would have to be in the HUNDREDS OF GRAMS RANGE..
How many people do you think are buying hundreds of fucking grams of pebbles off Tony?
Fucking nobody thats who. And if they were, he'd instantly know they were OPI.
So that just sounds like Tony was throwing shit out there to confuse people and cover his own tracks.
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i own 6 vendor accounts and were all in cahoots bro
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The last person anyone should be blaming is DPR or SR in general. I mean it says right there as a warning, "FE early at your own risk." The whole point of the Silk Road is that this a true free market. If you get scammed in the process, you kind of have to blame yourself. I mean I lost $250 if this is a scam, but I'm not going to blame DPR for that. He has no obligation whatsoever to step in and help the people that willingly chose to not use the scam protection that he gave us. Welcome to the true free market. If you don't like it, leave the site. We've all certainly learned a valuable lesson from this event. Even if Tony shows up tomorrow and it turns out we all were just impatient, let's all take the pledge to be smarter in the future about FE. I'll be honest, there is still one vendor that I use regularly that I will always FE for. But other than that, this is my last time. And I ever get scammed by that vendor (if you're wondering, it's Ivory, who I completely trust to not do something like that), then I'll blame myself then too. People always look for someone to blame when they get screwed. Well two people are to blame here: Tony and yourself.
Yes I agree 100%. FE is there for a reason. We all got burned.
I have bought from Ivory but personally his mdma prices are a bit high (like 3BTC more than others such as googleyed) and I am 99.9% sure that he is legit and wouldn't scam, as I am about a few top rated vendors here, such as UKpharm.
But.. two weeks ago, who wouldn't have said that about Tony?
We all trusted him, and we all got fucking burned.
So I'm with you, no more FE. I have over 50 transactions now. If vendors won't let me stay in escrow then that's just fucking bullshit.
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i own 6 vendor accounts and were all in cahoots bro
i kno
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i own 6 vendor accounts and were all in cahoots bro
I wouldn't even be surprised if this were true, considering you registered today and the only posts youve made have been on this topic.
But since we're on the internet I'll have to go with the highly likely probability that you are just a piece of shit troll.
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wow.... me and tony talked through pm and he told me he thought opi was buying his pebbles and re selling them and thought he was going to pull off a big 420 scam.... sounds weird
I'm not going to go into details,but people just need to think about some things,put a few things together.
ok bye.
yes, USdirect knew of my scam and could have warned you all but i paid him off as well ain't that right bro?
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wow.... me and tony talked through pm and he told me he thought opi was buying his pebbles and re selling them and thought he was going to pull off a big 420 scam.... sounds weird
I don't meant to sound like some paranoid stoner/methhead, but this is pretty common amoung newbie scammers who care about people.
It's hard to explain.. I've been involved with many many MANY scams, and this is pretty common amoung new scammers.
Though, he doesn't seem like someone who would make a weird scammer mistake like that.
Of course, this is just my experience/opinion, but this is only a throwaway account, so send in the - karma! :)
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I think Tony is in trouble, I hope he's OK.
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i own 6 vendor accounts and were all in cahoots bro
I wouldn't even be surprised if this were true, considering you registered today and the only posts youve made have been on this topic.
But since we're on the internet I'll have to go with the highly likely probability that you are just a piece of shit troll.
dont assume things. that just spreads mis information
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I think Tony is in trouble, I hope he's OK.
What makes you think that?
Because the overwhelming evidence, at least at this moment, is that he's scammed us all
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i own 6 vendor accounts and were all in cahoots bro
I wouldn't even be surprised if this were true, considering you registered today and the only posts youve made have been on this topic.
But since we're on the internet I'll have to go with the highly likely probability that you are just a piece of shit troll.
dont assume things. that just spreads mis information
I'm open to all the possibilities, but right now there isn't any direct evidence proving Tigger is tony.
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i doubt he got pop'd ,unless it happened after the stealth mode.
if he got busted its not like hes going to ask to fuzz "oh hey can i log into my SR acct. and tell everyone im catching up on things real quick" haha,no
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very true so we cant assume he is attempting to spread misinformation, but we also cant assume he is a troll
this whole forum account creation thing needs to be revamped
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i doubt he got pop'd ,unless it happened after the stealth mode.
if he got busted its not like hes going to ask to fuzz "oh hey can i log into my SR acct. and tell everyone im catching up on things real quick" haha,no
But what are the chances?
Guy opens to international customers. Asks everyone to FE early. Closes his account saying he'll be back in two days. THEN HE GETS ARRESTED?
Sure, its a physical possibility but it's pretty obvious this is a massive scam.
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I think Tony is in trouble, I hope he's OK.
What's that, Lassie? Tony fell in the well? We need to go save him!
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I think Tony is in trouble, I hope he's OK.
What's that, Lassie? Tony fell in the well? We need to go save him!
ROFLMFAOCOPTER
been getting alot of these bullshit i hope hes ok posts lol i personally hope hes dead but w/e some ppl have hearts i guess
I think the 75 bucks i lost was well worth all of this fun bullshitting/mind fuckin
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i'm packaging your orders right now you peons!
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I hope this speculation doesn't come true. I will be able to possibly provide some solid evidence based on an order that I recently place. It wasn't small either.
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I hope this speculation doesn't come true. I will be able to possibly provide some solid evidence based on an order that I recently place. It wasn't small either.
What sort of evidence?
PM me if you dont want to say here
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I hope this speculation doesn't come true. I will be able to possibly provide some solid evidence based on an order that I recently place. It wasn't small either.
haha this is too easy, you placed your order after everyone started talking about my scam?
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tigger authenticate yourself as tony
oh wait you wont cause that would ruin the whole point of you post misinfo/troll
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Tigger, I don't think anyone is taking you even moderately seriously. But continue, it's funny to read.
Puts some light into this thread.
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Tbh it does seem very suspicious that in the past month 3 new vendors from canada have started up and are selling Tonys actual products. I mean, the pebbles? The only person I saw selling those was Tony.
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tony the tigger......
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when opi turned up they argued with each other loads in the forum and i thought they were the same person and he going to change on his own sale but there was a lot warning people about that so by not going then was perfect for him but opi said at least that sr contacted him saying he wasnt allowed to ask for FE and i assumed tony had told sr to do this coz they didnt do that to all the real scammers so fuck knows
what about fannyhill or whatever who appeared the other week i think they had the no4 gear and was from canada ,thats all products covered aint it
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About Tony76=Opi and now might = Fanny Hill, those of you who have previously ordered, did any of the orders come from the same province? or postal code?
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hmmm...I suppose once a vendor has really built up his stats it may become tempting to just scam a ton of people.
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seems painfully obvious now that OPI is tony
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i swear opi had tonys acid listed a couple weeks back too. dug through his feedback and forum posts and didn't see anything about it, but i thought it was weird and noted it cuz him and tony had battled in the forums before. even remember the listings description was something like "I got this from a friend I've known for about 6 or 7 years...." anyone notice that or am i just going crazy?
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check out this old tony post : Scammers are getting smarter it seems. Before they would try and just get a few people to pay for items and disappear.. Now it seems they are investing time and MONEY into their scams. Shipping a few items so that they get some good reviews, and then boom get a shitload of people to finalize early and take off. Rinse and Repeat.
Sorry to hear you guys got took for whatever amount of dollars.
In brighter news... I am currently looking for a supplier for LSD to go along with my premium MDMA,K,Coke and H
Cheers
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seems painfully obvious now that OPI is tony
Ive talked with OPI before over PM, in depth, and while I was curious if his pebbles being the same as Tonys Im now reconsidering that. I do believe they are in a similar geographic area but the area is known for it's H and if you're in Canada that's where H is likely coming from. OPI was out of stock for a few days but then on Friday he re-up'd - who knows, maybe they have the same supplier or source but dont even realize it.
Tonys writing style didnt seem to match at all when i was chattin with OPI thru PM. They seem like two very different people. Also, Tony was very adamant about only offering regular post mail. OPI offers regular, xpress and on although not listed he offered me priority shipping over night a while back. OPI seems like a nice guy and as I said I strongly doubt he is Tony.
I just hope Tony is OK and that he comes back and fuckin squashes all the haters. Im only out $100 if he doesnt but Im not even thinking that yet. Tony will be back. And Tigger, funny guy... If Tony was pulling something he wouldnt come back like that. Plus, you're trying to convince us too much so you're obviously a fake. a kinda funny one, but still fake. lol.
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Alright ... although I trust Tony, and I have no evidence that he is scamming anyone I am going to post two pieces of information that may help some people on here.
First: I placed my first order, and it arrived (5 days).
Second: I placed my second order, and it still hasn't arrived.
Third: Tony offered to re-ship my order this last Tuesday.
Fourth: It has been 7 days, which I know isn't long, but it is greater than 5 days. I am not worried. Come tomorrow, I will be.
Fifth: I was sent a privnote by Tony asking me to join his own "personal" market. I did not make any transactions on his private market as there is no recourse for bad transactions.
I still think Tony is 100% legit because I have received a package from him, but this post has me hyper worried. I have only been SR for a little while now, and I don't think it has turned out to be the experience I bargained for. Why is it so fucking hard to get some H? Jesus fucking Christ.
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I have a somewhat useful way to find out if they are the same person. it is kind of common sense, and they may catch it, but PM me, and I will give you the idea
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Alright ... although I trust Tony, and I have no evidence that he is scamming anyone I am going to post two pieces of information that may help some people on here.
First: I placed my first order, and it arrived (5 days).
Second: I placed my second order, and it still hasn't arrived.
Third: Tony offered to re-ship my order this last Tuesday.
Fourth: It has been 7 days, which I know isn't long, but it is greater than 5 days. I am not worried. Come tomorrow, I will be.
Fifth: I was sent a privnote by Tony asking me to join his own "personal" market. I did not make any transactions on his private market as there is no recourse for bad transactions.
I still think Tony is 100% legit because I have received a package from him, but this post has me hyper worried. I have only been SR for a little while now, and I don't think it has turned out to be the experience I bargained for. Why is it so fucking hard to get some H? Jesus fucking Christ.
the fact that tony sent a privnote about a private market seems to add to the suspicions of him being LEO as mentioned here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=20954.0
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Alright ... although I trust Tony, and I have no evidence that he is scamming anyone I am going to post two pieces of information that may help some people on here.
First: I placed my first order, and it arrived (5 days).
Second: I placed my second order, and it still hasn't arrived.
Third: Tony offered to re-ship my order this last Tuesday.
Fourth: It has been 7 days, which I know isn't long, but it is greater than 5 days. I am not worried. Come tomorrow, I will be.
Fifth: I was sent a privnote by Tony asking me to join his own "personal" market. I did not make any transactions on his private market as there is no recourse for bad transactions.
I still think Tony is 100% legit because I have received a package from him, but this post has me hyper worried. I have only been SR for a little while now, and I don't think it has turned out to be the experience I bargained for. Why is it so fucking hard to get some H? Jesus fucking Christ.
the fact that tony sent a privnote about a private market seems to add to the suspicions of him being LEO as mentioned here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=20954.0
dude i know cops have set up stings before but how/why would a cop be slinging THAT much high quality H? if a cop was on here sellin he wouldnt be slinging one of if not the best H on SR. if a cop were to sell to people they wouldnt have cared about the detail and quality that tony did. they would probably have mid to good grade gear if we were lucky.
i just want tony to either laugh at us and tell us he fucked us or come back soon and slap all the haters VERY SOON as in today. im hoping for the latter.
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check out this old tony post : Scammers are getting smarter it seems. Before they would try and just get a few people to pay for items and disappear.. Now it seems they are investing time and MONEY into their scams. Shipping a few items so that they get some good reviews, and then boom get a shitload of people to finalize early and take off. Rinse and Repeat.
Sorry to hear you guys got took for whatever amount of dollars.
In brighter news... I am currently looking for a supplier for LSD to go along with my premium MDMA,K,Coke and H
Cheers
Haha so many people are acting like tony it's insane. Which person is tony making fun of us!!! I have 3 ppl in mind haha.
Tony if your reading this, I'm truly dissapointed in your morals. One day it will come back. Don't worry about that. I know I'm laughing right now because i know it's gonna happen haha!
Tony the bitch!
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Alright ... although I trust Tony, and I have no evidence that he is scamming anyone I am going to post two pieces of information that may help some people on here.
First: I placed my first order, and it arrived (5 days).
Second: I placed my second order, and it still hasn't arrived.
Third: Tony offered to re-ship my order this last Tuesday.
Fourth: It has been 7 days, which I know isn't long, but it is greater than 5 days. I am not worried. Come tomorrow, I will be.
Fifth: I was sent a privnote by Tony asking me to join his own "personal" market. I did not make any transactions on his private market as there is no recourse for bad transactions.
I still think Tony is 100% legit because I have received a package from him, but this post has me hyper worried. I have only been SR for a little while now, and I don't think it has turned out to be the experience I bargained for. Why is it so fucking hard to get some H? Jesus fucking Christ.
the fact that tony sent a privnote about a private market seems to add to the suspicions of him being LEO as mentioned here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=20954.0
dude i know cops have set up stings before but how/why would a cop be slinging THAT much high quality H? if a cop was on here sellin he wouldnt be slinging one of if not the best H on SR. if a cop were to sell to people they wouldnt have cared about the detail and quality that tony did. they would probably have mid to good grade gear if we were lucky.
i just want tony to either laugh at us and tell us he fucked us or come back soon and slap all the haters VERY SOON as in today. im hoping for the latter.
i actually had just said exactly what you did to someone IRL.... just like to play devil's advocate on here... looking at things from every possible angle is necessary to maintain proper precautions
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Hello folks!
I am new here, and am most assuredly NOT Tony. For one, I would have SHEETS up, and not piddling little singles. Hell, I got this vendors account because I thought I'd finally found a good source for L on the road. I want Tony back as well, so I can restock without paying three arms and two fingers.
Personally, I think if he's not on vacation, then he likely got popped.
This sale probably resulted in Tony/a driver driving around with more drugs in his car than ever before, looking for dropoffs, in a city where the cops likely know Tony is in the general vicinity, they knew about the SR sale and likely to look out for excessive mail. I would say, all it takes is to get pinched once with tons of drug mail, and you are GONE.
It's just as valid as the other scenarios.
The only thing we know for sure, is this.
Tony was here, but now he's gone.
We've lost his drugs, but we'll carry on.
Those who loved him, loved him well.
Those who lost, scream "Go to Hell!"
We cannot know definitively one way or the other what happened until we either get info about an arrest, are visited by Tony or someone who knows him. Everything else is conjecture. We just gotta keep on moving.
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wow.... me and tony talked through pm and he told me he thought opi was buying his pebbles and re selling them and thought he was going to pull off a big 420 scam.... sounds weird
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? ??? ???
BULL FUCKING SHIT
if this was true then that means I would of had to bought 4 + ounces in the last 3 weeks... and its kinda obvious if someone able to keep that much stock that they are not buying from anyone on here.. cause why the hell would I sell for 20$/gram? how the hell is that worth my time?
fuck you and tony.
Your word is SHIT... I knew it since the beginning you said you would make an apology if I was legit... guess what? you turned scammer....
I guess this is better than a public apology cause you are the scamming piece of shit.. yet you called me a scammer?
hahahaha you have zero morals, I hope you end up getting arrested and your shit pushed in.. you seem like a little bitch that would enjoy that....
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About Tony76=Opi and now might = Fanny Hill, those of you who have previously ordered, did any of the orders come from the same province? or postal code?
I have placed orders with both Tony76 and Opi, and without getting into detail the orders came from 2 different cities located in 2 different provinces of Canada. I seriously doubt they are the same person.
Does anyone remember when Tony76 first came on the scene and everyone was saying on the H forum how similar his regular dope (this was before the pebbles) was to the H sold by Wumg00 aka W007? I don't think it's that surprising that dealers who are living in the same country and carrying very high quality H would have very similar products.
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Jesus this is one thread with the same person talking to himself over and over.
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Jesus this is one thread with the same person talking to himself over and over.
nomad bloodbath is Tony76!
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Jesus this is one thread with the same person talking to himself over and over.
nomad bloodbath is Tony76!
hahaha i was just about to say the same thing. lol
(obviously j/k Nomad)
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hello I'm 12
what's this?
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wow.... me and tony talked through pm and he told me he thought opi was buying his pebbles and re selling them and thought he was going to pull off a big 420 scam.... sounds weird
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? ??? ???
BULL FUCKING SHIT
if this was true then that means I would of had to bought 4 + ounces in the last 3 weeks... and its kinda obvious if someone able to keep that much stock that they are not buying from anyone on here.. cause why the hell would I sell for 20$/gram? how the hell is that worth my time?
fuck you and tony.
Your word is SHIT... I knew it since the beginning you said you would make an apology if I was legit... guess what? you turned scammer....
I guess this is better than a public apology cause you are the scamming piece of shit.. yet you called me a scammer?
hahahaha you have zero morals, I hope you end up getting arrested and your shit pushed in.. you seem like a little bitch that would enjoy that....
Don't pay them any attention OPI. If you let them get to you then they have won.
I don't understand where you got tony = OPI from. But its awfully stupid
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Jesus this is one thread with the same person talking to himself over and over.
I talk to myself :)
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Jesus this is one thread with the same person talking to himself over and over.
I talk to myself :)
we all do.
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If he does not return SR should work towards dumping his info to le, thats what he deserves if he leaves scamming probably 100k+
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From what I can tell this is it Tony76=W007 and thats a guarantee. I knew it but chose not to believe... W007 came on here and like a month after tony came on offering the EXACT same products and shipping from the same country and province. What are the chances two vendors from Canada are gonna come on one after the other so close together and sell all the same shit?
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From what I can tell this is it Tony76=W007 and thats a guarantee. I knew it but chose not to believe... W007 came on here and like a month after tony came on offering the EXACT same products and shipping from the same country and province. What are the chances two vendors from Canada are gonna come on one after the other so close together and sell all the same shit?
oh my gawd.
How long are you people gonna act like fuckbag asshats?
The conclusions you people come up with are like so totally moronic
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Anyone who questions opi's pebbles has done had them. I have read reviews where people had both Tony's and opi's dope and compared the two, they are different. Also, if you get the same pebbles I got from opi, you'd be hard pressed to call them anything but the strongest dope on planet earth. Look at the volume opi does, he could not do that if he were reselling Tony's gear.
I think you all know better, but with so many people ass out, speculation is not only running rampant, but is making the situation easier to deal with for those involved. So, you guys enjoy.
34tuforlunch, fuck you and I hope every vendor takes note of his username and refuses to sell to him. You need your fuckin ass stomped.
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lmao if you think I need my ass stomped your a complete tard sorry but this is not a pro scam site. People who scam deserve consequences.
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If he does not return SR should work towards dumping his info to le, thats what he deserves if he leaves scamming probably 100k+
Are you serious? Be a man of reason, not a man of passion.
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Yeah, why anyone would involve the law is beyond me. Anyone who would even think to involve the law in anything is not someone I would dare fuck with. If dude ripped you off, hunt him down. Why feed the fucking pigs, they are fat enough and already need to focus on things where they can add to society, not take away like they do now filling the jails with drug offenders.
You're just like so many fucking people, bitch about the cops and the government until you want them to fight a battle for you. Just remember the next time they bust your balls for some simple shit, that you once advocated empowering them.
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From what I can tell this is it Tony76=W007 and thats a guarantee. I knew it but chose not to believe... W007 came on here and like a month after tony came on offering the EXACT same products and shipping from the same country and province. What are the chances two vendors from Canada are gonna come on one after the other so close together and sell all the same shit?
god im tired of seeing the same stupid posts over and over. most of canadians heroin (and pot for that matter) comes in thru vancouver from asia. so the chances of most of the canadian H being from vancouver or BC is probably 9/10. and that other 1/10 comes from Toronto which was probably actually originally passed thru Vancouver. OPI's pebbles are awesome. he is not tony. fuck off.
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Anyone who questions opi's pebbles has done had them. I have read reviews where people had both Tony's and opi's dope and compared the two, they are different. Also, if you get the same pebbles I got from opi, you'd be hard pressed to call them anything but the strongest dope on planet earth. Look at the volume opi does, he could not do that if he were reselling Tony's gear.
I think you all know better, but with so many people ass out, speculation is not only running rampant, but is making the situation easier to deal with for those involved. So, you guys enjoy.
34tuforlunch, fuck you and I hope every vendor takes note of his username and refuses to sell to him. You need your fuckin ass stomped.
I still believe in Opi myself. He's never asked me to FE, and when a package didn't show, I finalized anyway, as I tried a new shipping setup, and it's on me. We're all acting a little bit crazy. This isn't the first time this has happened. Right after IP burnt a bunch of people, we all started suspecting everybody too.
We brought this one on ourselves by putting Tony on a pedestal and coming down a bit hard on people who said they weren't receiving product, just because they were new. All we really need to do is just abide by SR's policies, share our information on here without criticizing each other so much, and remember it's the dope game and shit does happen.
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mybodymychoice is obviously tony76
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Saying no to FE is a great thing to do, but there's a point at which the escrow system fails.
Personally I'm undecided on Tony's position.
You all accuse him of asking everyone to finalize early with the intention ending with a large scam. Most of us went with it.
But instead of thinking about YOUR money and YOUR situation, think about Tony's. Sure, he has tens of thousands of dollars of drugs being purchased every week. He has to make sure they're sealed well, addressed correctly. He has to drive all over his providence, and use different mailboxes. He probably deals IRL as well. And most importantly, he has to re-up.
People have complained about long shipping times with Tony since he started here. When he offered escrow, that would mean that if you bought 2g of his pebbles, that's $500 that sits in escrow, probably for over a week. That's $500 that Tony might never even get, because believe it or not guys, buyers can scam too.
The point I'm trying to make is that when someone is pushing drugs the way Tony is (huge numbers of small-medium sized orders of multiple different chemicals), the escrow system screws the dealer. All of the sudden it's the end of the week. Tony didn't make 60 of his customers finalize early because they had more than ten purchases (WOW! GREAT STATS DEWD). He's mailed out $15k worth of drugs and as far as he knows, that money is GONE. There's no protection for the vendor.
Escrow was and can be a good idea, but it will always fall short eventually.
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I have ordered from both Tony and W007...... Both had way different product.. (Coke) and they came from very far away from each other :) My order will come.... Shit happens...... People get sick and tired of working and need a break.. Chill the fuck out give it a few weeks and then freak out :)
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2012/04/28/bc-mexico-shooting-gisby.html
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You guys really think it's feasible that Tony goes to Mexico and get's his dope? Besides, mexicans sell tar.
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Saying no to FE is a great thing to do, but there's a point at which the escrow system fails.
Personally I'm undecided on Tony's position.
You all accuse him of asking everyone to finalize early with the intention ending with a large scam. Most of us went with it.
But instead of thinking about YOUR money and YOUR situation, think about Tony's. Sure, he has tens of thousands of dollars of drugs being purchased every week. He has to make sure they're sealed well, addressed correctly. He has to drive all over his providence, and use different mailboxes. He probably deals IRL as well. And most importantly, he has to re-up.
People have complained about long shipping times with Tony since he started here. When he offered escrow, that would mean that if you bought 2g of his pebbles, that's $500 that sits in escrow, probably for over a week. That's $500 that Tony might never even get, because believe it or not guys, buyers can scam too.
The point I'm trying to make is that when someone is pushing drugs the way Tony is (huge numbers of small-medium sized orders of multiple different chemicals), the escrow system screws the dealer. All of the sudden it's the end of the week. Tony didn't make 60 of his customers finalize early because they had more than ten purchases (WOW! GREAT STATS DEWD). He's mailed out $15k worth of drugs and as far as he knows, that money is GONE. There's no protection for the vendor.
Escrow was and can be a good idea, but it will always fall short eventually.
I'm going to have to respectfully declare 100% bullshit on this.
There are many aspects to being a good vendor, in my opinion, besides getting good product to the customer. Communication is important- responding to messages in a timely manner. All the "extra work" a vendor has on the Road that he doesn't have outside of it is part of being a vendor here. If a vendor is selling in such quantity that he begins to neglect all other aspects of what it takes to sell here, then I might suggest he de-list some product or go into stealth mode.
This is really a pet peeve of mine: Tony, or any other vendor for that matter, having money tied up in escrow is not my frigging problem, nor any other buyer's, and I really don't want to hear them whine about it here. No vendor likes having money tied up in escrow, but the long-term, respected vendors who have been here a long time simply deal with it.
Make a profit, re-up, resell, and repeat. The money in escrow will be released soon enough. The fact that it's tied up in escrow for a week or two simply means he'll have to wait a week or two until it's available to re-invest, not that he'll never get it. Eventually the release of escrow funds will level out with the amount product being purchased and sold- as long as the vendor enough business acumen to manage his business.
I've never been comfortable with giving someone IRL money in advance so they could go "re-up", and it isn't any different here. If a vendor manages his business properly, then having money tied up in escrow shouldn't be a problem. Escrow is part of what makes Silk Road work.
And going out of escrow is what led to the debacle that's being discussed in every thread recently. Sorry, but I'm just not feeling any sympathy for a vendor requiring FE because he's crying about funds being tied up in escrow.
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Your point is valid as well. It's just a sticky situation no matter how you look at it, but I'm trying to check out all the angles.
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Guys, let's take a chill pill.
He shipped all of these out from the same place in Canada - a fucking moose or grizzly could have killed a mailman or the mounty bringing the mail to the border might have ran adrift in a snow bank, these things happen in the great white north!
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everyone is pointing fingers at tony, but for all you know his internet could have gone down. or his computer could have crashed. I placed an order, but i will not be saying i got scammed until i wait and see if the package comes. Benefit of the doubt, sometimes you gotta give it.
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Guys, let's take a chill pill.
He shipped all of these out from the same place in Canada - a fucking moose or grizzly could have killed a mailman or the mounty bringing the mail to the border might have ran adrift in a snow bank, these things happen in the great white north!
This one is really funny :) you make my day!
PS: at this time of the year snow here is pretty rare ;)
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Hahaha that would be hilarious if this all happened because Tony's computer crashed and he was without Tor for the past couple days. I can imagine him thinking, "It's alright, I'm sure they'll figure out that something minor happened and that I'll be back shortly. What's the worst that could happen?" And then tomorrow he logs in...
;D
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Your point is valid as well. It's just a sticky situation no matter how you look at it, but I'm trying to check out all the angles.
Sorry, I didn't mean to come off like a dick. I just feel like people should be good at their chosen profession, or at least try to be.
Few things irritate me more than whiny, bitchy, drug dealers that can't seem to manage their only day job. Makes me want to say "you're a fucking drug dealer- try growing a pair and act like one".
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looks like T-Mart id down, bye bye $1000
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Hahaha that would be hilarious if this all happened because Tony's computer crashed and he was without Tor for the past couple days. I can imagine him thinking, "It's alright, I'm sure they'll figure out that something minor happened and that I'll be back shortly. What's the worst that could happen?" And then tomorrow he logs in...
;D
That gets funnier every time I read it :)
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too bad its done people
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So I've spent the last 2 days reading all of these posts about t76 and I couldn't take it anymore I had to chime in especially on this thread.
First, I've gotta say I really lucked out being a new guy and not having encryption and btc set up in time because I saw T76's sale and I really wanted to jump on it and I'm 100% certain he would have let me with a first transaction and an FE. I was literally a day or 2 late as he took down his listings the day I got encryption figured out. So I feel for everyone that lost their asses especially in the hard times we all face right now financially. We're all tight these days with the devalutation of the dollar and the hyper inflation on even a gallon of milk. I feel for everyone because really it could have happened to any of us if a trusted seller that you've gone to 5 times b4 says that with the sale he needs an FE, who wouldn't have followed that.. yes I know some of you are ol so wise and would never, but we all learn from mistakes at different times and different mistakes so don't get all high and mighty because I really do understand both sides of this coin. Love you guys
As a new guy though this is all scaring the shit out of me. Looks like a huge scam from who everyone thought to be a trusted seller, yet SR staff from what I have seen in all of these forums, have remained quiet. NOT A PEEP??? Seriously?? This is your site and it's taking a big hit in trust... I don't care if it is your policy not to have FE's, but still this looks to have affected a huge customer base, earn some customer loyalty and sympathy and reach out for the love of ...! I don't think they realize the impact this is having on the new (maybe even older) people's confidence level with this site. I know they have escrow to protect us, but once they start losing a group of customers, others are going to follow and then vendors may lose their base and it's a domino affect as sellers start losing faith in the market and see a decrease in demand the motivation for a quick buck seems greater. Seen it many times in many markets. This is a concern for me and I'm not the dullest knife in the drawer.
Thirdly, I want to say, when I got on the road today and listed in order of newest, the 3 vendors that this thread draws attention to seemed suspicious to me as a FNG! I don't think Timewilltell is at all wearing a tinfoil hat to have some concerns. I've only been on here basically a week and when I saw the Tomorrowman & AfternoonDelight's listings and they were very recent listings and both out of Canada (no disrespect to Canada... love the place) with the same looking product that T76 was offering... i was like "WOW" coincidence?... yeah right I've been around the block a few times and know that coincidences are very rare. Though it all could be coincidence or maybe people working out of the same family... who knows. I'm not going to say it is Tony with 3 other accounts, but from a FNG to any other FNG's or even Vets... I'd be very careful and look at the feedback on a lot of the listings. LOTS OF FE's for 2 of those vendors that I saw with a quick look.
All I'm saying is be smart friends.. that's all I'm saying. I just got to the road and I think it's amazing. Let's not let some bad apples ruin it or our experiences for us. Ok that's my .2 cents and I know I'm a n00b and no one gives 2 shits, but I had to get that off my chest!!
Sending out good energy and LOVE to all of those who are hurting and have had their soles scarred from this experience.. just know there are ppl out here who do truly care and can empathize. And even though it gets a little harder to trust people, don't give up hope on your fellow human brothers and sisters for many of them know not what they do as we're all just spirits trying to have a new experience. There is a better place and time ahead for all when these times will seem so petty and tiny, this is a big year for you and me. Stay in the light to my new SR family. Party on and Cheers!
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i don't think this scam will discourage people from using silk road, people will just stay in escrow now.
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we should assume that Tony/Noriega are/will be vending here again.
people will want to use escrow, they've made a quick hundred thousand, and they'll come back and start selling legit again.
either they already have established vendor accounts or they'll wait a couple months until people forget.. OR start shipping from a different location. It's easily accomplished with a decent connect/money (which they obviously have plenty of).
this just fucking blows though. I was collecting a drug stash for summer, took me a while to get that cash, now a couple fucking sociopathic assholes have cost me like 100 hours of my life.
just a shame because sr really did have the brotherhood of mankind vibes going for it - now I'm skeptical as fuck of it. The admins not saying anything? What the fuck is that about?
DPR is all big on the agorism/power to the people thing but as hundreds of us are out of pocket he sits in the shadows and allows tony and noriegas account to remain unbanned. sure it was our responsibility and it isn't his fault but i mean, no reaction at all..? That's just fucking low
the motherfucker is raking in 10%> of all fucking sales (and he still got commission off the scam sales lets not forget) and he doesnt even have the fucking balls to address the community he so poetically talks about. and yes he does know about it. he knows perfectly well what has happened here. not saying he's involved but sr is his fucking job, he has admin access, he can fucking tell a scam has gone down here. And yet he hasnt addressed the community
frankly i dont care if he founded SR. sure its a great thing but it seems he has become the very thing he sought to extinguish by making this market place. he is no different to a government favouring the rights of corporations over the people. their accounts remain unbanned whilst we remain in the dark about the situation
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Stop saying that DPR profited from this scam. He gained no commission for the 420 sale as far as I know, he gave that up as one of the deals offered on the site. He had nothing to gain from letting this happen.
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Stop saying that DPR profited from this scam. He gained no commission for the 420 sale as far as I know, he gave that up as one of the deals offered on the site. He had nothing to gain from letting this happen.
oh my fucking god
please, you fucking cretinous moron, quote me the phrase, AT ANY POINT, where I implied he profited off this (And in case you hadnt noticed the scam was going on before/after 4/20)
I am saying that he makes a shitload off of NORMAL SR TRANSACTIONS AND AT LEAST OWES THE COMMUNITY A FUCKING CURSORY INVESTIGATION - EVEN IF IT WAS ALL OUR FAULT FOR FEING WHICH IT WAS.. HE STILL OWES US TO LOOK INTO IT.
and shut the fuck up you are literally an idiot and have attributed that false idea of me saying DPR was involved to me about 3 times now. each time i have corrected you and you are yet to realise how fucking idiotic you seem when YOU ARE POSTING THINGS THAT HAVENT HAPPENED IN REALITY YOU FUCKING PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT. FUCK YOU AND DIE
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dude relax so we all lost a lot of money and never got any drugs, there;s always tomorrow
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(and he still got commission off the scam sales lets not forget)
Sorry, that quote made it sound like you thought that he got commission off the scam sales. But what do I know, I'm just a fucking cretinous moron and I am fucking idiotic and I need to die.
Also you need to chill the fuck out in general. Stop screaming your head off for an investigation. DPR isn't a private eye, he's a tech guy who's running this amazing site for us all and you need to calm down. He's not going to waste his time with a "cursory investigation" that we already know won't get us anywhere.
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(and he still got commission off the scam sales lets not forget)
Sorry, that quote made it sound like you thought that he got commission off the scam sales. But what do I know, I'm just a fucking cretinous moron and I am fucking idiotic and I need to die.
Also you need to chill the fuck out in general. Stop screaming your head off for an investigation. DPR isn't a private eye, he's a tech guy who's running this amazing site for us all and you need to calm down. He's not going to waste his time with a "cursory investigation" that we already know won't get us anywhere.
Not true. We may be able to track it in the blockchain if we had a bitcoin address to follow
I got pissed because you have falsely attributed fucking MADE UP HORSESHIT to me about 4 times now, and each time failed to update your piece of shit notion of what I was saying
On an unrelated note, aakoven, trusted seller who knows noriega irl (implied this in noriegas first "new vendor on sr" thread), says that he is 100% sure that he is back. Fucking bullshit if you ask me. I wouldnt even be surprised if aakoven was noriega.
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to the OP take my fucking name out of the title...
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so basically everyone that sells out of canada now is tony to you. unlike tony i dont ask my clients to finalize early plus im on the other side of the SECOND LARGEST country in the world.
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to the OP take my fucking name out of the title...
Well that's one mystery solved, tony isn't opi.
edit, or Tomorrowman, or AfternoonDelight, or any other vendor from Canada that looks like it could be him.
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I guess that makes 3jane and ******** and obscure all tony as well.
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tony runs all the dealers in canada, we are all his minions.
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I've had both tony's and OPI's MDMA and not only were they completely different, but OPI's MDMA wasn't even MDMA and he refunded my purchase. I'd vouch for OPI being a stand-up gentleman. That is all.
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Hey guys, it's me - the real tony. The truth, is I got my foot stuck in a bucket about 5 days ago. Sorry for the delay, I'll send all your packages..
once I get this damn bucket off
damn man, it's really stuck! :(